Posts by Ray Frankz

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Russian Ban upheld - JWs lose appeal

by OrphanCrow in

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the supreme court of russia has rejected the jehovah's witnesses' appeal.. https://jw-russia.org/news/17071719-195.html.

july 17, 2017 the supreme court of russia has missed the last chance to restore law and justice for the 175,000 russian citizens professing the religion of jehovah's witnesses.

it took less than an hour of the meeting a panel of three supreme court judges, to leave unchanged the decision taken earlier by the judge yuri ivanenko, the liquidation and ban any and all registered organizations of the religion.since there is no more effective domestic remedies, the believers will appeal to the european court of human rights and other international organizations.. *note: as reported by the jworg source, jw-russia.org.

Ray Frankz

I think this ban is totally on the purposes of thhe russian orthodox church, it hurts the religion freedom of the people from there when they are not free to talk about what they believe.

on the other hand I think the government shutting down the offices of the WT in Russia isnt a bad thing, anyway. For me shutting down the branches affects the GB much more directly than attacking the individual JWs. When the individuals suffer, the community gets united.

my disappointmemt was mainly because there were some brothers in Eritreia that were more than 20 years in jail because they refused to hold a gun to kill, an action worthy of praise. In this case the GB always told the JW to pray for these brothers.

well when Russia attacked the branch, the website, the publications, they lost their minds, ignated a shameful letter campaign which drove close to political involvement, (after that the GB sent a letter to all congregations partially blaming them for the failure of the campaign), and had no shame to study their past court victories and say it was God blessing them while said that the most recent lost was persecution ans God would still show his power.

I just wished they made the same efforts for the Jw in Eritreia and took that brothers out of Jail.

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Anbody know...

by careful in

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...what david ianelli is doing these days?

he was in the writing department and known as one of the more liberal brothers there.

he gave loving, heartfelt talks.

Ray Frankz

Never heard this name. Where can I found info about him?

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Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)

by pale.emperor in

just wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.

i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.

my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .

Ray Frankz

Me too, always wanted to study physics but I was brainwashed and pioneered for 4 years after high school.

I'm taking physics now :)

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Has anybody experienced a judicial committee in a private venue?

by Chook in

i think getting them to agree to a private place would give you an edge (even if the egde of their sword closer to home).

if i'm ever hauled before their kangaroo court i will only go on one of three conditions .1 non jw venue .2 with legal representation .

3 the recording of proceedings.

Ray Frankz

Im treated as a DF person even though they never took the action.

Stuckinarut this is kind of perfect. The people who really cares about you won't stop talking to you since there's no announcement. The others, I suppose you don't miss them.

Oh man, I so hope it goes this way with me.

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What would happen when... in Warwick

by Gorbatchov in

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what would happen when the man on the picture below, would ring the bell at 1. kings drive in texudo.

" the guard asked with a routine smile on his face.

"maybe i can help you, i presume?

Ray Frankz

JEsus, We waited soooo much for you!

Take this razor blade and come back here after shaving this worldly beard.

PS: You may leave the moustache because of... reasons.

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What a beautiful day for service!

by StephaneLaliberte in

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i heard this expression very often and even said it often myself.

now that i am out, i realize this isn't always the case.

there were many times i was going out in service saturday morning and couldn't wait for 12:00 to come along so that we could go swimming, bicycling, play basket ball, go to the beach... .

Ray Frankz

That's normal, The service is much more work than religious behavior. We may kindo of like our job, normally because we think of the reward, our wage in this case. The JW also consider this a job and their wage is now the feeling that they are ok with God, since no elder will visit them to talk about spirituality if they work many hours on the field. There's the most important wage for them that is their hope to live forever what they are taught they are securing this by the preaching work.

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Land of the living dead

by hoser in

one of my children got disfellowshipped recently.

i was worried about that some of my jw friends and jw relatives would mention it to me and it would make for awkward conversation as i am glad that he is out.

i went to a jw family gathering.

Ray Frankz

I have a disfellowshipped person in my household and it's the same. Even the eleders only refers to him as "the chap". It's incredible, even when they send regards to the family they mention everyone in the house except him, in order to make clear that the regards weren't to the disfellowshipped.

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Has anyone noticed how Tony Morris is always referring to his notes ?

by Chook in

i honestly believe he has memory difficulties, him and mr letts iq is not much greater than a rabbit.

no the rabbit wins..

Ray Frankz

Morris and Lett are making me belive that somone else but the GB is running the Watchtower Corp. These clowns certainly need help tying their shoe laces in the morning.

Meet Don Adams.

ps> From the GB I see Geoffrey Jackson as the most articulated and appearing to be intelligent.

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Another thought about WT 607 bull.

by Crazyguy in

the babylonian empire didn't start until assyria was finally defeated in 612 bc.

then as we know babylon supposedly destroyed jerusalem in 607 according to wt.

before jerusalem was destroyed babylon had taken jerusalem and taken prisoners including the king and deported them to babylon and then according to ezekiel at 33:21 twelve years into their captivity a man from jerusalem came and told him the city had been destroyed.. ok so how does jerusalem get conquered 12 years before 607 when the babylonians hadn't even become the major power yet??

Ray Frankz

That was one of the things I told my mother that definetely bothered her about the Org. She passed days asking me more information from the internet. She got to the conclusion herself that the only articles that defends WT position is the WT's. After the initial thrill, she came back to the routine and forced herself to forget it probably.

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Imagine if Jw ran schools ?

by Chook in

after learning the alphabet no other education required.

history would be distorted, science rejected.

i'm surprised that gb didn't realise there is big money in education, big tony could be the professor of bullshit..

Ray Frankz

Actually they would teach kids how to read and do maths.

Science, ok but Skip evolution

Languages, ok but Skip hebraic and greek

History, ok, but Skip history of the religions on 19 and 20 centuries.

The rest of the time schedule would be mandatory technical courses on jobs based in handworking.

Each class, one would be sorted out to take Law school in order to have lawyers to defend them.

Each class one would be sorted out to take Med school to advocate pro Blood ban.

Each class three would be sorted to take Engineering in order to build their 'Cathedrals' - Bethel branches.

Everybody would have to take sales course.